Singapore Expats

rajagainstthemachine wrote:A flight steward friend I was chatting with mentioned that pilots resort to offloading jet fuel when attempting to crash land to reduce explosion impact. With over 40 ships and aircraft from different countries on the search mission I think by the end of today we should have some answers today.

And that fuel vaporises and doesn't turn up as a slick.

There apparently is an international register of stolen passports, which the check-in systems are connected to. A notice will pop up when somebody tries to check in with a passport recorded as stolen.
I know this because my wife got her (Singapore) passport stolen once and received a new one with the same passport number (this was when passport numbers were still identical with NRIC numbers and remained the same lifelong) - she got questioned every time she took a flight.
There must have been mischief involved in getting those two on board!

PNGMK wrote:

rajagainstthemachine wrote:A flight steward friend I was chatting with mentioned that pilots resort to offloading jet fuel when attempting to crash land to reduce explosion impact. With over 40 ships and aircraft from different countries on the search mission I think by the end of today we should have some answers today.

And that fuel vaporises and doesn't turn up as a slick.

The aircraft fuel does not vaporise that easily but I agree with your earlier post. It very much looks like an explosion or somebody clever enough to sabotage the transmitters. If the first case, it's a matter of time and some floating debris will be found.

Who I wonder? And if the plane was turning around per reports, where was it going? All very strange...if it was sabotage and/or terrorism usually some freak shows are happy to take credit. And if it was could it be related to China's problems of late or have SE Asia' various groups, quiet for several years now, appeared again. Troubling either way.

Or were they just a couple of drug runners who picked the wrong plane.

An overview in ST via the googles link:

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=%22M ... o+MH370%22

movingtospore wrote:Who I wonder? And if the plane was turning around per reports, where was it going? All very strange...if it was sabotage and/or terrorism usually some freak shows are happy to take credit. And if it was could it be related to China's problems of late or have SE Asia' various groups, quiet for several years now, appeared again. Troubling either way.

Or were they just a couple of drug runners who picked the wrong plane.

If it were terrorists trying to kill 190 odd PRC's we'd have heard by now a claim. I'm wondering whether it was a hijacking gone wrong (i.e. they were trying to get somewhere else and in fact may have succeeded?).

Aussie news is reporting the FBI and RAAF are now involved.

Wd40 wrote:Our trip to Sydney was also on 777 both ways on FlyScoot. But I would trust this flight more than the A320s that I have been flying using Tiger and Jetstar for short hauls in the region.

you mean 320 pilots are suicidal fly death traps?

seriously?

can you qualify your statement?

Intriguing case in this day and age, that a plane can vanish for this long with still no idea what happened! I also guessing terrorism or hijack, something to do with these two stolen passports...... Hope we will have more facts soon!

ecureilx wrote:

Wd40 wrote:Our trip to Sydney was also on 777 both ways on FlyScoot. But I would trust this flight more than the A320s that I have been flying using Tiger and Jetstar for short hauls in the region.

you mean 320 pilots are suicidal fly death traps?

seriously?

can you qualify your statement?

Indians have good reason to mistrust Airbuses - they probably wrote the s/w!- I believe it was over India that the control software in an airbus decided to pitch down to a yoke up input and caused the plane to crash. I can't find the link tho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_296

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidents_ ... 320_family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas_Flight_72

The QF72 flight is the definitive proof of a s/w error in the airbus.

ecureilx wrote:

Wd40 wrote:Our trip to Sydney was also on 777 both ways on FlyScoot. But I would trust this flight more than the A320s that I have been flying using Tiger and Jetstar for short hauls in the region.

you mean 320 pilots are suicidal fly death traps?

seriously?

can you qualify your statement?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidents_ ... 320_family

It was relatively speaking, I would prefer 777.

PNGMK wrote:

ecureilx wrote:

Wd40 wrote:Our trip to Sydney was also on 777 both ways on FlyScoot. But I would trust this flight more than the A320s that I have been flying using Tiger and Jetstar for short hauls in the region.

you mean 320 pilots are suicidal fly death traps?

seriously?

can you qualify your statement?

Indians have good reason to mistrust Airbuses - they probably wrote the s/w!- I believe it was over India that the control software in an airbus decided to pitch down to a yoke up input and caused the plane to crash. I can't find the link tho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_296

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidents_ ... 320_family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas_Flight_72

The QF72 flight is the definitive proof of a s/w error in the airbus.

I find your comments towards Malaysia and Indians insensitive, ignorant and racist. You should be ashamed of yourself as an experienced poster on this board.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

+1. Not exactly a Christian point of view.

The reality of the situation is that all later planes contain contain various hardware/software devices to try and control the plane in the event of pilot error.

There is much extended discussion as to whether this is a good thing or a bad thing or whether there are failure points in these mechanisms or the pilot's reactions to them... if you want to see the debates from the people that actually fly these planes, try http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news-13/. To blame it on Indian software is to be a racist twit.

As for passport checking, Interpol itself says, "...only a handful of countries worldwide are taking care to make sure that persons possessing stolen passports are not boarding international flights.”

Rofl!

Wd40 wrote:

ecureilx wrote:

Wd40 wrote:Our trip to Sydney was also on 777 both ways on FlyScoot. But I would trust this flight more than the A320s that I have been flying using Tiger and Jetstar for short hauls in the region.

you mean 320 pilots are suicidal fly death traps?

seriously?

can you qualify your statement?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidents_ ... 320_family

It was relatively speaking, I would prefer 777.

So you are saying once you discover the plane is a Boeing you'd either

a.) cancel the ticket

or

b.) step off the plane and demand that the airline change its plane to a Boeing?


btw none of this would have really mattered to you until this specific incident took place. The Boeing 777 is known to have one of the safest track record so far with just 1 known crash.

It's kind of shocking with these stolen passports. It would seem pretty easy to implement some kind of system based on the Interpol databases.