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Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Mon, 05 Sep 2022 6:11 pm
by MOCHS
@mewithc, you will have to do some financial planning first without including the subsidies. Subsidies are a bonus, not a right. Sad truth but there are many foreign spouses that want to be PR to get the subsidy and then sometimes the marriages doesn’t work out. That’s why ICA is more careful now. Show ICA that you two are financially stable and can live without the subsidy.

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Wed, 07 Sep 2022 10:36 pm
by hjklil
Hi, i'm currently holding an EP from Hong Kong, salary almost 6K per month.
Its been slightly over 7 months since i applied for my PR (2nd time).
Me and my boyfriend are getting married and should i update my marital status on the application or will it delay the process?
Does anyone has a similar experience and can share any advice?

Thank you!

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Thu, 08 Sep 2022 6:23 pm
by sundaymorningstaple
hjklil wrote:
Wed, 07 Sep 2022 10:36 pm
Hi, i'm currently holding an EP from Hong Kong, salary almost 6K per month.
Its been slightly over 7 months since i applied for my PR (2nd time).
Me and my boyfriend are getting married and should i update my marital status on the application or will it delay the process?
Does anyone has a similar experience and can share any advice?

Thank you!
If you have ROM'd yes you should notify them. If you haven't ROM'd, No. You are NOT MARRIED YET so that would throw a spanner in the works while they figure out if the should let somebody in who doesn't know the difference between fact and supposition. For the same reason, they don't accept transcripts for Tertiary education, only the sheepskin.

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 9:38 am
by mewithc
MOCHS wrote:
Mon, 05 Sep 2022 6:11 pm
@mewithc, you will have to do some financial planning first without including the subsidies. Subsidies are a bonus, not a right. Sad truth but there are many foreign spouses that want to be PR to get the subsidy and then sometimes the marriages doesn’t work out. That’s why ICA is more careful now. Show ICA that you two are financially stable and can live without the subsidy.
Will do that
thank you!

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 3:41 pm
by tinychef
Hi, this group has been tremendous help in reducing my anxiety, it is so heartening to see success stories here. May I also ask how my chances look?

Myself:
28yo Vietnamese
Bachelor degree from NUS, pursuing master degree from same school
13 yrs in SG
4 years work experience (healthcare industry)
EP @ 70k+ annual

Spouse:
28yo Singaporean
Race: other (Viet-origin)
PhD from NUS (consumer product industry)
Salary @ 80k+ annual

We moved in together for 4 years before getting married in 2021 Jan. No kids, living in rental. We submitted PR application for me (under spouse's sponsorship) 2021 Apr, so we've been waiting 17 months without news (we both changed jobs during this time and updated ICA accordingly).

We only know after reading on this forum that we should wait 2 years after marriage before applying. Not sure if the fact that we've been together (same address) for 4 years would help show that this is not a convenience marriage.

Thank you!

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 8:23 am
by singaporeflyer
tinychef wrote:
Thu, 22 Sep 2022 3:41 pm
Hi, this group has been tremendous help in reducing my anxiety, it is so heartening to see success stories here. May I also ask how my chances look?

Myself:
28yo Vietnamese
Bachelor degree from NUS, pursuing master degree from same school
13 yrs in SG
4 years work experience (healthcare industry)
EP @ 70k+ annual

Spouse:
28yo Singaporean
Race: other (Viet-origin)
PhD from NUS (consumer product industry)
Salary @ 80k+ annual

We moved in together for 4 years before getting married in 2021 Jan. No kids, living in rental. We submitted PR application for me (under spouse's sponsorship) 2021 Apr, so we've been waiting 17 months without news (we both changed jobs during this time and updated ICA accordingly).

We only know after reading on this forum that we should wait 2 years after marriage before applying. Not sure if the fact that we've been together (same address) for 4 years would help show that this is not a convenience marriage.

Thank you!
Same address does not count. Marriage certificate only counts. You will get it eventually. If rejected this time, reapply after 2 years.

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 9:13 pm
by daxiuyi85
Hi everyone,

Wanted to give an update on my earlier application back in 2020:viewtopic.php?t=134139&hilit=Daxiuyi85& ... 15#p828644

I was rejected in mid-2021 (after waiting 9 months), but reapplied in April this year. Similar profile apart from more time in Singapore (almost 5 years). Got approval at the start of this month (5 months almost to the day).

Just wanted to thank everyone for their time in responding at the time and sharing their observations.

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 11:16 pm
by hellogoodbyee
tinychef wrote:
Thu, 22 Sep 2022 3:41 pm
Hi, this group has been tremendous help in reducing my anxiety, it is so heartening to see success stories here. May I also ask how my chances look?

Myself:
28yo Vietnamese
Bachelor degree from NUS, pursuing master degree from same school
13 yrs in SG
4 years work experience (healthcare industry)
EP @ 70k+ annual

Spouse:
28yo Singaporean
Race: other (Viet-origin)
PhD from NUS (consumer product industry)
Salary @ 80k+ annual

We moved in together for 4 years before getting married in 2021 Jan. No kids, living in rental. We submitted PR application for me (under spouse's sponsorship) 2021 Apr, so we've been waiting 17 months without news (we both changed jobs during this time and updated ICA accordingly).

We only know after reading on this forum that we should wait 2 years after marriage before applying. Not sure if the fact that we've been together (same address) for 4 years would help show that this is not a convenience marriage.

Thank you!

We got married last year, applied for PR (SG spouse sponsored) about 6 months after. The wait took about 10 months and my husband just got their PR a few weeks ago. We moved in together earlier last year so I don't think length of cohabitation is a factor.

Just hang tight and wait for an outcome, it will probably come soon.

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:59 am
by malcontent
hellogoodbyee wrote:
Sat, 24 Sep 2022 11:16 pm

We got married last year, applied for PR (SG spouse sponsored) about 6 months after. The wait took about 10 months and my husband just got their PR a few weeks ago. We moved in together earlier last year so I don't think length of cohabitation is a factor.

Just hang tight and wait for an outcome, it will probably come soon.
Is your husband Malaysian Chinese?

That would be very different than Vietnamese.

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 1:23 pm
by Gandalfthegrey
Sharing our PR approval details, hopefully it gives some hope and details to others. I have been thankful for all the inputs on the forum.

Race - Indian,EP holders
Family - Couple with 2 kids (girl 4, boy 1; both born in Singapore, elder one attends local childcare)
Primarily applicant - myself, 36. Medical device/healthcare logistics, basic 180k++
I have regular investment in SRS. I am actively involved in community service etc, but I didn't include anything specific in the application
Wife - Sales in IT, basic 100k++, both working in Singapore since 2015

In Singapore since 2015, first application was in 2017-18 which was rejected. This was second attempt

Applied in Oct 2021
Approved in Sep 2022

Happy to share any advice or questions.

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 3:01 pm
by hellogoodbyee
malcontent wrote:
Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:59 am
hellogoodbyee wrote:
Sat, 24 Sep 2022 11:16 pm

We got married last year, applied for PR (SG spouse sponsored) about 6 months after. The wait took about 10 months and my husband just got their PR a few weeks ago. We moved in together earlier last year so I don't think length of cohabitation is a factor.

Just hang tight and wait for an outcome, it will probably come soon.
Is your husband Malaysian Chinese?

That would be very different than Vietnamese.
European

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 7:08 pm
by malcontent
hellogoodbyee wrote:
Sun, 25 Sep 2022 3:01 pm
malcontent wrote:
Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:59 am
hellogoodbyee wrote:
Sat, 24 Sep 2022 11:16 pm

We got married last year, applied for PR (SG spouse sponsored) about 6 months after. The wait took about 10 months and my husband just got their PR a few weeks ago. We moved in together earlier last year so I don't think length of cohabitation is a factor.

Just hang tight and wait for an outcome, it will probably come soon.
Is your husband Malaysian Chinese?

That would be very different than Vietnamese.
European
I imagine it’s a totally different calculus for a Vietnamese spouse. The economic motivation to migrate here is high. The rate of marriages of convenience from Vietnam is high.

Europeans don’t migrate to Singapore for economic reasons (unless they are wealthy tax dodgers). Instead… if they don’t approve your husband quickly, they might lose a Singaporean to Europe.

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 3:43 pm
by tinychef
singaporeflyer wrote:
Fri, 23 Sep 2022 8:23 am
tinychef wrote:
Thu, 22 Sep 2022 3:41 pm
Hi, this group has been tremendous help in reducing my anxiety, it is so heartening to see success stories here. May I also ask how my chances look?

Myself:
28yo Vietnamese
Bachelor degree from NUS, pursuing master degree from same school
13 yrs in SG
4 years work experience (healthcare industry)
EP @ 70k+ annual

Spouse:
28yo Singaporean
Race: other (Viet-origin)
PhD from NUS (consumer product industry)
Salary @ 80k+ annual

We moved in together for 4 years before getting married in 2021 Jan. No kids, living in rental. We submitted PR application for me (under spouse's sponsorship) 2021 Apr, so we've been waiting 17 months without news (we both changed jobs during this time and updated ICA accordingly).

We only know after reading on this forum that we should wait 2 years after marriage before applying. Not sure if the fact that we've been together (same address) for 4 years would help show that this is not a convenience marriage.

Thank you!
Same address does not count. Marriage certificate only counts. You will get it eventually. If rejected this time, reapply after 2 years.
Ah I see, 2 years is coming soon, so if we are rejected now, the next application will be well over 2 years. And thanks everybody for your replies. Yes the odds are not very good for Vietnamese, but we will keep our hopes up. After all we practically grew up here, our entire life is here. Will update when there is an outcome.

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 4:36 pm
by malcontent
Most Vietnamese have some Chinese blood, but I don’t suppose that counts. At some point the whole CMIO race thing is going to need a big re-think. There is no way that Others isn’t going to grow, especially given the pace of marriages to non-CMI races.

Re: PR Approval Probability 2022

Posted: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 7:47 pm
by Pantsgrenadier
malcontent wrote:
Wed, 28 Sep 2022 4:36 pm
Most Vietnamese have some Chinese blood, but I don’t suppose that counts. At some point the whole CMIO race thing is going to need a big re-think. There is no way that Others isn’t going to grow, especially given the pace of marriages to non-CMI races.
Saying this in Vietnam will land you in troubles with more than a few people :wink:

Jokes aside, I think race is not only about blood, but about culture. We certainly have chinese community in Vietnam, and they have retained somewhat a distinct culture, though they may not look very different from Vnamese (due to centuries of mixed blood).

So, what I feel is the government is trying to preserve the chinese culture here, when they use "race" to access everything. I remember someone mentioned in this forum that chinese born in western countries have less PR chance than those in Asia in general, due to them (may be) not chinese culturally.

FYI, I know 2 Vietnamese in same uni batch got PR with relative ease, due to their race being chinese. I still got a long way ahead :)