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My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 7:23 pm
by arjunareddy02
Hello all i got my PR in 2009 and I have renewed my REP up to dec 2018 and now when I applied for renewal it got rejected and I have contributed my cpf and taxes for first 2 years and now am staying overseas so now I am thinking that apply renewal again? If in case of rejection how do I keep my PR still alive ?I don't want to loose my PR If I come back to Singapore and apply again for renewal?any suggestions?

Re: My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 7:28 pm
by singaporeflyer
arjunareddy02 wrote:Hello all i got my PR in 2009 and I have renewed my REP up to dec 2018 and now when I applied for renewal it got rejected and I have contributed my cpf and taxes for first 2 years and now am staying overseas so now I am thinking that apply renewal again? If in case of rejection how do I keep my PR still alive ?I don't want to loose my PR If I come back to Singapore and apply again for renewal?any suggestions?
There is no way you can keep it as you are not based in SG and working in SG. Based on what you said,you are not working in SG for the last 3 years.. if you come and work in SG, they MAY grant you a 1 year REP renewal to see if you will reside and stay in SG.

Re: My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 9:04 pm
by The Ref
That raises an interesting question. Lets say you are a 2nd generation PR that has done NS then gone back to the "home" country to do university. Technically they wouldnt be eligible for a REP even though they have done NS. Any idea what would happen?

Re: My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:33 pm
by singaporeflyer
The Ref wrote:That raises an interesting question. Lets say you are a 2nd generation PR that has done NS then gone back to the "home" country to do university. Technically they wouldnt be eligible for a REP even though they have done NS. Any idea what would happen?
Once you have completed NS,the equation totally changes. It is seen as a great positive.

Re: My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 9:22 am
by PNGMK
If you only paid CPF and taxes for the total of two years for the ten you had PR then that may be an issue. Why do you want PR if you're not living in Singapore?

Re: My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:23 am
by sundaymorningstaple
singaporeflyer wrote:
The Ref wrote:That raises an interesting question. Lets say you are a 2nd generation PR that has done NS then gone back to the "home" country to do university. Technically they wouldnt be eligible for a REP even though they have done NS. Any idea what would happen?
Once you have completed NS,the equation totally changes. It is seen as a great positive.
Not true. At least, not any more. The performance of NS and the subsequent renewal of expired or given up PR or SGC is not a given any more. Makes good sense if you think about it. What happens if the NS man was a total tool. Is that somebody you would like to give PR or SGC to? Doubtful. Not saying it's the case here, but just explaining that doing NS is an obligation but doesn't give you any special other rights after finishing it.

Re: My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:48 pm
by babyballer
singaporeflyer wrote: There is no way you can keep it as you are not based in SG and working in SG. Based on what you said,you are not working in SG for the last 3 years.. if you come and work in SG, they MAY grant you a 1 year REP renewal to see if you will reside and stay in SG.
This is not entirely true.

My friend has been able to maintain his PR while he is working full time in US by paying CPF every month and income tax every year. He has always been able to renew his PR without any issue. He setup a company that pays himself minimum EP salary or so. This is how you can game the system. Not advisable, but this is how you can do it.

Re: My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 8:17 am
by PNGMK
How many years has he run this scheme?

Re: My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 10:34 am
by babyballer
PNGMK wrote:How many years has he run this scheme?
8 years.

Re: My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 11:06 am
by singaporeflyer
babyballer wrote:
singaporeflyer wrote: There is no way you can keep it as you are not based in SG and working in SG. Based on what you said,you are not working in SG for the last 3 years.. if you come and work in SG, they MAY grant you a 1 year REP renewal to see if you will reside and stay in SG.
This is not entirely true.

My friend has been able to maintain his PR while he is working full time in US by paying CPF every month and income tax every year. He has always been able to renew his PR without any issue. He setup a company that pays himself minimum EP salary or so. This is how you can game the system. Not advisable, but this is how you can do it.
Where is your friend originally from?

Re: My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 3:53 pm
by babyballer
singaporeflyer wrote:
babyballer wrote:
singaporeflyer wrote: There is no way you can keep it as you are not based in SG and working in SG. Based on what you said,you are not working in SG for the last 3 years.. if you come and work in SG, they MAY grant you a 1 year REP renewal to see if you will reside and stay in SG.
This is not entirely true.

My friend has been able to maintain his PR while he is working full time in US by paying CPF every month and income tax every year. He has always been able to renew his PR without any issue. He setup a company that pays himself minimum EP salary or so. This is how you can game the system. Not advisable, but this is how you can do it.
Where is your friend originally from?
He is from one of the countries in South East Asia.

Re: My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 6:35 pm
by PNGMK
babyballer wrote:
PNGMK wrote:How many years has he run this scheme?
8 years.
Well I don't see this as impossible. It's always been clear that if you're employed by a Singapore LE you can probably renew your REP if you're offically posted overseas provided your CPF is paid etc...

Re: My Singapore PR REP got rejected

Posted: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 6:15 am
by tokyoplanable
Babyballer, did your friend renewal the rep via the Singapore consulate in the country they worked/lived in? Thanks