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Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 6:20 am
by May_2022
Hello,
We are being offered to move to Singapore this summer. We would love to but we have one hesitation. Our daughter is turning 12 in September and we don’t want her to be vaccinated against Covid at this stage. Please kindly do not judge our decision in this regard.
My question is. We would arrive before she turns 12. But once she’s 12 what are the expectations in Singapore? Is it compulsory or simply encouraged. Would she be barred from everywhere? We would homeschool our children so school wouldn’t be an issue but everything else? Would we be fined or kicked out if we refused to vaccinate her?
Our children got the 11 childhood vaccines as recommended here in Europe and we would consider a non-MRNA vaccine but not Pfizer or moderna and it seems those are the only option.
Thank you for your help and advice.
Re: Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 9:45 am
by abbby
May_2022 wrote: ↑Sun, 30 Jan 2022 6:20 am
Hello,
We are being offered to move to Singapore this summer. We would love to but we have one hesitation. Our daughter is turning 12 in September and we don’t want her to be vaccinated against Covid at this stage. Please kindly do not judge our decision in this regard.
My question is. We would arrive before she turns 12. But once she’s 12 what are the expectations in Singapore? Is it compulsory or simply encouraged. Would she be barred from everywhere? We would homeschool our children so school wouldn’t be an issue but everything else? Would we be fined or kicked out if we refused to vaccinate her?
Our children got the 11 childhood vaccines as recommended here in Europe and we would consider a non-MRNA vaccine but not Pfizer or moderna and it seems those are the only option.
Thank you for your help and advice.
It's still not compulsory to have your child vaccinated in government schools. But the program of rolling out the MRNA vaccination for 5-12 yr olds have already started in Dec. At the present moment, below 12 yr olds are still allowed to enter malls and restaurants so long as they are with the family and adults within the family are vaccinated. But government may change this over time..You can consider other non-MRNA vaccine for your child as it's recognised by the government as well. You can read up more on MOH website for more information.
Re: Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 9:55 am
by PNGMK
Once she is 12 it will become difficult to live in Singapore without some form of Covid19 vaccine. if that level of control bothers you then honestly Singapore is not for you as that form of control extends into many parts of expats lives.
Re: Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:16 am
by the observer
There’s the sinopharm or sinovac option.
3 shots = complete dose.
And the booster.
So 4 shots in total
Re: Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 7:13 pm
by Lisafuller
May_2022 wrote: ↑Sun, 30 Jan 2022 6:20 am
Hello,
We are being offered to move to Singapore this summer. We would love to but we have one hesitation. Our daughter is turning 12 in September and we don’t want her to be vaccinated against Covid at this stage. Please kindly do not judge our decision in this regard.
My question is. We would arrive before she turns 12. But once she’s 12 what are the expectations in Singapore? Is it compulsory or simply encouraged. Would she be barred from everywhere? We would homeschool our children so school wouldn’t be an issue but everything else? Would we be fined or kicked out if we refused to vaccinate her?
Our children got the 11 childhood vaccines as recommended here in Europe and we would consider a non-MRNA vaccine but not Pfizer or moderna and it seems those are the only option.
Thank you for your help and advice.
Not judging, but why do you not want her vaccinated against COVID? Just some advice, once she turns 12 it will be hard for her to go nearly anywhere as unvaccinated people are no longer allowed in most enclosed public areas. It would be a lot more convenient to just get vaccinated.
Re: Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 7:33 pm
by Lisafuller
PNGMK wrote: ↑Sun, 30 Jan 2022 9:55 am
Once she is 12 it will become difficult to live in Singapore without some form of Covid19 vaccine. if that level of control bothers you then honestly Singapore is not for you as that form of control extends into many parts of expats lives.
Well put. The COVID control is one thing, but it speaks to the extent of control the govt has over SG in general. If you’re not comfortable with that, SG isn’t going to be the place for you.
Re: Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 7:34 pm
by Lisafuller
abbby wrote: ↑Sun, 30 Jan 2022 9:45 am
May_2022 wrote: ↑Sun, 30 Jan 2022 6:20 am
Hello,
We are being offered to move to Singapore this summer. We would love to but we have one hesitation. Our daughter is turning 12 in September and we don’t want her to be vaccinated against Covid at this stage. Please kindly do not judge our decision in this regard.
My question is. We would arrive before she turns 12. But once she’s 12 what are the expectations in Singapore? Is it compulsory or simply encouraged. Would she be barred from everywhere? We would homeschool our children so school wouldn’t be an issue but everything else? Would we be fined or kicked out if we refused to vaccinate her?
Our children got the 11 childhood vaccines as recommended here in Europe and we would consider a non-MRNA vaccine but not Pfizer or moderna and it seems those are the only option.
Thank you for your help and advice.
It's still not compulsory to have your child vaccinated in government schools. But the program of rolling out the MRNA vaccination for 5-12 yr olds have already started in Dec. At the present moment, below 12 yr olds are still allowed to enter malls and restaurants so long as they are with the family and adults within the family are vaccinated. But government may change this over time..You can consider other non-MRNA vaccine for your child as it's recognised by the government as well. You can read up more on MOH website for more information.
The point is also that as soon as the child turns 12 she will not be allowed into malls and other public areas. Unless there is a way to stop her from aging it really isn’t feasible to be unvaccinated.
Re: Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 7:35 pm
by Lisafuller
the observer wrote: ↑Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:16 am
There’s the sinopharm or sinovac option.
3 shots = complete dose.
And the booster.
So 4 shots in total
Is it approved for kids under 12?
Re: Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 12:15 am
by May_2022
Thank you everyone for your kind answers and your helpful advice.
It seems like our daughter’s daily life will be really affected even if we homeschool her.
Unfortunately sinovac and sinopharm are only offered from age 18 according to the official information online.
We need to have a good think about it all and whether we could agree to vaccinate our daughter at this stage.
Thank you again!
Re: Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 10:16 am
by PNGMK
Try to get her vaccinated with J&J before you come over? It is a non MNR vaccine and available in the US I believe for < 12 yo.
Once again, if you're struggling with just this issue, Singapore is not for you. Over a dozen families have left my wife's school (staff and students) because of Singapore's totalitarian control and the loss of appeal to stay here (taxes and expenses going up, no longer a hub for travel, boring etc).
Singpore LOST 10% of it's non citizen population last year and that trend is expected to continue. Significant numbers of locals are once again looking to migrate out.
Re: Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 2:19 pm
by Lisafuller
May_2022 wrote: ↑Mon, 31 Jan 2022 12:15 am
Thank you everyone for your kind answers and your helpful advice.
It seems like our daughter’s daily life will be really affected even if we homeschool her.
Unfortunately sinovac and sinopharm are only offered from age 18 according to the official information online.
We need to have a good think about it all and whether we could agree to vaccinate our daughter at this stage.
Thank you again!
Singapore is one of the strictest countries in terms of restrictions for the unvaccinated. If you are sure you’re unwilling to vaccinate your daughter, think long and hard about whether SG is somewhere you’d like to be.
Re: Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 2:20 pm
by Lisafuller
PNGMK wrote: ↑Mon, 31 Jan 2022 10:16 am
Try to get her vaccinated with J&J before you come over? It is a non MNR vaccine and available in the US I believe for < 12 yo.
Once again, if you're struggling with just this issue, Singapore is not for you. Over a dozen families have left my wife's school (staff and students) because of Singapore's totalitarian control and the loss of appeal to stay here (taxes and expenses going up, no longer a hub for travel, boring etc).
Singpore LOST 10% of it's non citizen population last year and that trend is expected to continue. Significant numbers of locals are once again looking to migrate out.
You’re exactly right about locals migrating out of SG. In the last year, I personally know 5 families who have made the move, most to the US/UK.
Re: Covid vaccine 12 year old
Posted: Thu, 03 Feb 2022 12:17 am
by May_2022
Thank you everyone for the help and advice. Much appreciated!