Singapore Expats

Hi All,

I am a SC and my gf is a Vietnamese chinese on 6 months WP. Recently applied for PMLA and still awaiting for the result.

Can i know if the PMLA is approved, Will the LLE entitle her to stay in SG after her WP expired? (As i know the LLE will last for a year) and till we got married within that one year and with the LLE, is she allowed to work after her WP expired or she will still need some sort of work pass in order to work here?

Really appreciate the great advice so at least I could have better planning ahead.

ryosuke85 wrote: ↑

Sat, 17 Dec 2022 3:33 am

Will the LLE entitle her to stay in SG after her WP expired?

No!

LLE means LETTER of long term visit pass eligibility. No where does it say it is a visit pass.

Read the Advisory Notes of this page again carefully.

A positive PMLA outcome is not an immigration pass, and does not constitute the approval of an LTVP.

And needless to say because she is on work permit, she better get the MOM permission to marry a citizen. She don’t get the permission, she can forget about staying here after the marriage.

The PMLA just got approved today. So means even with the LLE, she is unable to stay in SG until we got married and applied for the LTVP? but if it is so, then what is the point of applying for PMLA since i thought it is meant for us to get to know each other more during this one year?

yes, i know she needs to get approval from MOM. we have actually did that as well. now still waiting for approval to be granted.

Bro, you need to re-read every section of the PMLA info on ICA’s website again very carefully.

The PMLA is a free online assessment which allows them to:
* exchange key information with each other before getting married;
* find out if the prospective NR spouse may qualify for a Long-Term Visit Pass (LTVP) after marriage; and
* enjoy a significantly shorter processing time when they subsequently submit an LTVP application. 

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a positive PMLA outcome is not an immigration pass

No where does it say PMLA lets you stay 1 year in SG. It just says the LLE is valid for a year, that’s all. You just assumed it is a visit pass when everything on the website says otherwise.

LLE only helps you to:
- Determine if your prospective spouse is eligible for LTVP
- Shortens the LTVP application time

Your fiancée needs to be on her own eligible visitor/visa pass from now until she gets the LTVP in her hands.

Since she doesn’t have much time in SG, just do the ROM ASAP after you get the MOM approval, apply LTVP 1 day after the ROM. You can hold a banquet later.

Most of the time, “exchanging key info about each other” translates to planning for wedding. It definitely won’t be easy if one person in SG and one person overseas but it can be done. Just a bit stressful. I handled the SG wedding planning by myself when my then-fiancé was overseas, lots of online correspondence.

ryosuke85 wrote: ↑

Sat, 07 Jan 2023 5:05 am

The PMLA just got approved today. So means even with the LLE, she is unable to stay in SG until we got married and applied for the LTVP? but if it is so, then what is the point of applying for PMLA since i thought it is meant for us to get to know each other more during this one year?

yes, i know she needs to get approval from MOM. we have actually did that as well. now still waiting for approval to be granted.

It's not meant in the physical sense. You should have figured that out before you asked her to marry you. Or did she propose to you, perchance. e.g. marriage of convenience?

If it was a marriage of convenience, I doubt the PMLA would be approved as they do ask how long both parties have known & dated each other. Unless they lied about it in the form…