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Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Mon, 26 Dec 2022 9:27 pm
by Wd40
Came across this excellent video in which a Malaysian MP is retrospecting what Malaysia did wrong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NePiy2 ... =MrMoneyTV
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:16 am
by Lisafuller
Wow... I've always viewed Malaysian politics as pretty corrupt, but this guy has given me a little hope for Malaysia. Maybe he'll get a chance to implement his ideas one day.
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 9:46 am
by jwoods1864
Thanks for sharing
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Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 7:05 am
by PNGMK
Rule of law and meritocracy in Singapore vs corruption and nepotism.
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 2:22 am
by Lisafuller
PNGMK wrote: ↑Wed, 28 Dec 2022 7:05 am
Rule of law and meritocracy in Singapore vs corruption and nepotism.
So much cronyism in Malaysia. Wouldn't you consider the "Lee dynasty" nepotism though?
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 11:44 am
by PNGMK
Lisafuller wrote: ↑Thu, 29 Dec 2022 2:22 am
PNGMK wrote: ↑Wed, 28 Dec 2022 7:05 am
Rule of law and meritocracy in Singapore vs corruption and nepotism.
So much cronyism in Malaysia. Wouldn't you consider the "Lee dynasty" nepotism though?
I do.
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 8:33 pm
by Lisafuller
PNGMK wrote: ↑Thu, 29 Dec 2022 11:44 am
Lisafuller wrote: ↑Thu, 29 Dec 2022 2:22 am
PNGMK wrote: ↑Wed, 28 Dec 2022 7:05 am
Rule of law and meritocracy in Singapore vs corruption and nepotism.
So much cronyism in Malaysia. Wouldn't you consider the "Lee dynasty" nepotism though?
I do.
I'm honestly surprised there isn't more of an uproar about this... really odd that everyone just seems to go along with it. Granted the government has done pretty well under him.
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 6:49 am
by tiktok
They use a combination of soft brainwashing (media control, education) and punishment (POFMA, defamation suits) to stop the population taking about it.. Of course there's the PM salary, senior government positions stuffed with relatives, and much more than would be an outrage in other countries.
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 10:45 am
by tiktok
And woe betide anyone who dares speak out against the government. Just see what happened to the blogger Roy Ngerng, one of many whose lives have been wrecked after being sued personally by the PM.
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 11:09 am
by Lisafuller
tiktok wrote: ↑Fri, 30 Dec 2022 6:49 am
They use a combination of soft brainwashing (media control, education) and punishment (POFMA, defamation suits) to stop the population taking about it.. Of course there's the PM salary, senior government positions stuffed with relatives, and much more than would be an outrage in other countries.
Yup. Some parts of the way things are done in SG are really not right, like all the ways they silence opponents and the small things they do (gerrymandering/right to hold elections whenever they want) to give themselves the upper hand.
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 11:11 am
by Lisafuller
tiktok wrote: ↑Fri, 30 Dec 2022 10:45 am
And woe betide anyone who dares speak out against the government. Just see what happened to the blogger Roy Ngerng, one of many whose lives have been wrecked after being sued personally by the PM.
Not to mention all the other bloggers and publications he's sued.
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 11:17 am
by tiktok
You're totally right, the election process here is, to put it nicely, a joke. More on that here:
https://freedomhouse.org/country/singap ... world/2022
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 11:20 am
by Lisafuller
Good God, a fail in both categories. What a disgrace!
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 11:22 am
by therat
Lisafuller wrote: ↑Fri, 30 Dec 2022 11:09 am
tiktok wrote: ↑Fri, 30 Dec 2022 6:49 am
They use a combination of soft brainwashing (media control, education) and punishment (POFMA, defamation suits) to stop the population taking about it.. Of course there's the PM salary, senior government positions stuffed with relatives, and much more than would be an outrage in other countries.
Yup. Some parts of the way things are done in SG are really not right, like all the ways they silence opponents and the small things they do (gerrymandering/right to hold elections whenever they want) to give themselves the upper hand.
I think all government act the same.
Which government will give opp upper hand?
Re: Why malaysia is falling behind Singapore
Posted: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 11:30 am
by tiktok
Of course no government will give the opposition the upper hand. But other governments don't or can't sue anyone who criticizes them, pay themselves massive salaries, put all their relatives in senior government posts, manipulate the electoral process to make it almost impossible for the opposition to win votes, suppress freedom of information and public expression.
But hey if people here are ok with that, carry on.