Singapore Expats

Sapphirefire wrote: ↑

Sat, 10 Jun 2023 2:52 pm

Hi all!

My Singapore citizen husband has sponsored for me, a PR, citizenship application and I would like to know how possible it is for me to get citizenship. Here are our details:

Husband:
Age: 28
Citizenship: Singaporean
Race: Indian
Marital status: married for 2 years to me
Children: 1 one year old singaporean child (boy) with me
Property: owns a 5-room HDB flat with me
Occupation: aircraft technician for 3 years
Salary: $2800 monthly
Highest education: local polytechnic diploma

Me (wife):
Age: 28
Race: Indian
Citizenship: Indian, Singapore permanent resident since I was 1 year old
Marital status: married singaporean in 2019, divorced in mar 2021. Married current husband in June 2021. No children or property from previous marriage
Occupation: staff nurse working at statutory board for 3 years
Salary: 3800 monthly
Highest education: nursing diploma from local polytechnic

My previous marriage was an extremely messy and toxic one and my ex-parents-in-law have lodged a police report against me for “harassment” and have gotten a personal protection order against me in the POHA court. I did not breach this order and hence have not been convicted of any offence or crime. The case manager also made me pay my ex parents-in-law $500 for their “inconveniences”.

I am wondering if this police report and court case would be detrimental to my citizenship approval.

Any insights to my case would be much appreciated. Thank you so much!

singaporeflyer wrote: ↑

Sat, 10 Jun 2023 5:31 pm

Sapphirefire wrote: ↑

Sat, 10 Jun 2023 2:52 pm

Hi all!

My Singapore citizen husband has sponsored for me, a PR, citizenship application and I would like to know how possible it is for me to get citizenship. Here are our details:

Husband:
Age: 28
Citizenship: Singaporean
Race: Indian
Marital status: married for 2 years to me
Children: 1 one year old singaporean child (boy) with me
Property: owns a 5-room HDB flat with me
Occupation: aircraft technician for 3 years
Salary: $2800 monthly
Highest education: local polytechnic diploma

Me (wife):
Age: 28
Race: Indian
Citizenship: Indian, Singapore permanent resident since I was 1 year old
Marital status: married singaporean in 2019, divorced in mar 2021. Married current husband in June 2021. No children or property from previous marriage
Occupation: staff nurse working at statutory board for 3 years
Salary: 3800 monthly
Highest education: nursing diploma from local polytechnic

My previous marriage was an extremely messy and toxic one and my ex-parents-in-law have lodged a police report against me for “harassment” and have gotten a personal protection order against me in the POHA court. I did not breach this order and hence have not been convicted of any offence or crime. The case manager also made me pay my ex parents-in-law $500 for their “inconveniences”.

I am wondering if this police report and court case would be detrimental to my citizenship approval.

Any insights to my case would be much appreciated. Thank you so much!

Having any reports lodged will surely make the SC application tough.

I feel that’s not fair because it wasn’t my fault. In fact, I was the victim there.

sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑

Sat, 10 Jun 2023 11:22 pm

I feel that’s not fair because it wasn’t my fault. In fact, I was the victim there.

That is your side of the story. There is a lot missing between your 1st marriage and the divorce. Like what got your marriage to the point of divorce? Would be interesting to hear both versions of the facts. If you had a messy divorce there may be more to it than meets the eye. Especially considering you remarried only 3 months after your divorce?

sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑

Sun, 11 Jun 2023 10:19 pm

Makes it a lot clearer now. I wish you luck. I've been through the divorce thing myself many years ago. Will be married 39 years to my current wife in Sept.

Sapphirefire wrote: ↑

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 9:38 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑

Sun, 11 Jun 2023 10:19 pm

Makes it a lot clearer now. I wish you luck. I've been through the divorce thing myself many years ago. Will be married 39 years to my current wife in Sept.

Oh man. Would my re-entry permit renewal be affected because of the stupid police report? I don’t have anywhere to go my family’s all here. My dad and siblings and husband and child are all singaporean. My job is here too what will I do in India all by myself?

sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 1:07 pm

Sapphirefire wrote: ↑

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 9:38 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑

Sun, 11 Jun 2023 10:19 pm

Makes it a lot clearer now. I wish you luck. I've been through the divorce thing myself many years ago. Will be married 39 years to my current wife in Sept.

Oh man. Would my re-entry permit renewal be affected because of the stupid police report? I don’t have anywhere to go my family’s all here. My dad and siblings and husband and child are all singaporean. My job is here too what will I do in India all by myself?

Unless you have been convicted in a court of law, I doubt seriously that it would affect the REP. The Employment and location of employment are the main issues there. However, should you be "convicted" of a crime, it might be a possibility. Sadly we do not have any anecdotal stories in this kind of circumstance to support any outcome hypothesis.

jalanjalan wrote: ↑

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 3:37 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 1:07 pm

Sapphirefire wrote: ↑

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 9:38 am

Oh man. Would my re-entry permit renewal be affected because of the stupid police report? I don’t have anywhere to go my family’s all here. My dad and siblings and husband and child are all singaporean. My job is here too what will I do in India all by myself?

Unless you have been convicted in a court of law, I doubt seriously that it would affect the REP. The Employment and location of employment are the main issues there. However, should you be "convicted" of a crime, it might be a possibility. Sadly we do not have any anecdotal stories in this kind of circumstance to support any outcome hypothesis.

There was a case in the news some years back:
"He said ICA's policy, among other things, was not to grant REPs automatically and that a PR who is under probe or has been charged, convicted or is appealing against the conviction is generally not granted an REP unless the case is concluded."
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... tus-review

jalanjalan wrote: ↑

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 3:37 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 1:07 pm

Sapphirefire wrote: ↑

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 9:38 am

Oh man. Would my re-entry permit renewal be affected because of the stupid police report? I don’t have anywhere to go my family’s all here. My dad and siblings and husband and child are all singaporean. My job is here too what will I do in India all by myself?

Unless you have been convicted in a court of law, I doubt seriously that it would affect the REP. The Employment and location of employment are the main issues there. However, should you be "convicted" of a crime, it might be a possibility. Sadly we do not have any anecdotal stories in this kind of circumstance to support any outcome hypothesis.

There was a case in the news some years back:
"He said ICA's policy, among other things, was not to grant REPs automatically and that a PR who is under probe or has been charged, convicted or is appealing against the conviction is generally not granted an REP unless the case is concluded."
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... tus-review

sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑

Tue, 13 Jun 2023 9:22 pm

jalanjalan wrote: ↑

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 3:37 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 1:07 pm

Unless you have been convicted in a court of law, I doubt seriously that it would affect the REP. The Employment and location of employment are the main issues there. However, should you be "convicted" of a crime, it might be a possibility. Sadly we do not have any anecdotal stories in this kind of circumstance to support any outcome hypothesis.

There was a case in the news some years back:
"He said ICA's policy, among other things, was not to grant REPs automatically and that a PR who is under probe or has been charged, convicted or is appealing against the conviction is generally not granted an REP unless the case is concluded."
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... tus-review

Good job. I missed that back when it was news. I have to wonder if the statement was made, while probably 100% correct, and was put so bluntly due to the fact that the person in question was a law professor and should well have known better. But I do know for a fact the Immigration Officers are given a heck of a lot of leeway in their interpretation of the rules. In fact it's a generally understood thing that Immigration officers are doGs unto themselves. That's why appeals are rarely successful. I actually shared an office with the US INS officer in Singapore on the 32nd floor of Int'l plaza back in the late 80s~early 90s when working with the UNHCR resettling the boat people from VN. I prepared cases for resettlement to present to that INS officer after doing many field trips to the camps for interviews with the refugees.