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Russian civil war?
Posted: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 8:43 pm
by smoulder
If it gathers momentum, the Wagner insurrection would indeed be an incredible twist.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/wa ... 023-06-24/
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 9:59 pm
by Lisafuller
What do you think are the odds something actually happens?
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 9:36 am
by smoulder
I believe that a middle class population that has tasted 21st century consumerism will not be very much in favor of war and hardship. They will probably have grand ideas of nationalism initially, but when sanctions start to affect their quality of life and when they find that they cannot travel freely outside their own country for leisure and business, that's when the war starts to affect them personally and when more fence sitters will start to outright reject the idea.
I believe Putin's popularity will only decline. That's among the civilian population. I would hazard a guess that as the military faces setbacks and they start to get demoralized, his popularity will decline among the military regulars as well. That can't be good for him in the long run - it's not hard to imagine a scenario in which someone else who is hungry enough for power can rally troops around him and start a resistance to the regime in the capital.
Well that's my view, just the way I see it - it may be a naive view because I'm no expert on the current situation.
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 10:40 pm
by smoulder
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Sun, 09 Jul 2023 8:56 pm
by Ganeshas1981
No wars! Peace, everyone!
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 10:40 am
by jalanjalan
Ganeshas1981 wrote: ↑Sun, 09 Jul 2023 8:56 pm
No wars! Peace, everyone!
That would be nice. How?
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 2:26 pm
by sundaymorningstaple
Can I have some of what he's smoking?
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 4:24 pm
by tiktok
Not in this country you can't.
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 5:03 pm
by sundaymorningstaple
Yep, valid point.
But, if you get your wish and the PAP gets booted, you can bet the whacked out opposition will allow it. It would be about the only way they could ever stay in power.
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 5:14 pm
by smoulder
sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑Mon, 10 Jul 2023 5:03 pm
Yep, valid point.
But, if you get your wish and the PAP gets booted, you can bet the whacked out opposition will allow it. It would be about the only way they could ever stay in power.
The oppies would also kick out foreigners like him.
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 6:58 pm
by tiktok
EP = 11%, DP = 16% of population.
EPs I reckon are >50% of senior management of MNCs.
So that would not be good for the economy.
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 8:49 pm
by Ganeshas1981
jalanjalan wrote: ↑Mon, 10 Jul 2023 10:40 am
Ganeshas1981 wrote: ↑Sun, 09 Jul 2023 8:56 pm
No wars! Peace, everyone!
That would be nice. How?
Well, if everyone would just follow the UN charter, it would be enough.
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 8:32 pm
by Wd40
Number of countries who were pretty close to 1st world standards and have screwed up by doing a self goal and gone down in relevance in the last decade.
1. Turkey
2. China
3. Russia
If you are a passport holder of one of these countries you are trying to get the hell out there.
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 10:23 pm
by Lisafuller
tiktok wrote: ↑Mon, 10 Jul 2023 4:24 pm
Not in this country you can't.
Don't start
Re: Russian civil war?
Posted: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 10:24 pm
by Lisafuller
Wd40 wrote: ↑Fri, 14 Jul 2023 8:32 pm
Number of countries who were pretty close to 1st world standards and have screwed up by doing a self goal and gone down in relevance in the last decade.
1. Turkey
2. China
3. Russia
If you are a passport holder of one of these countries you are trying to get the hell out there.
China especially.