Singapore Expats

Hi there,

Anyone knows how long is the usual waiting time for an airline to reply to prospective cadet pilots?

Thing is, I have applied for the cadet pilot programme and am still awaiting a reply from them. I've read on other forums that some have already been invited for an interview.

Thanks most much!

Spooks wrote:Hi there,

Anyone knows how long is the usual waiting time for an airline to reply to prospective cadet pilots?

Thing is, I have applied for the cadet pilot programme and am still awaiting a reply from them. I've read on other forums that some have already been invited for an interview.

Thanks most much!

Hi Spooks..

Are you refering to the cadet pilot programme for global assessment? I have received two replies; the first requesting for mine resume and the second citing that selected candidates would be informed of a briefing one month prior to assessment (September is the scheduled assessment for Singaporeans). Care to share which forums you hear of other candidates receiving their invites?

Cheers
Nicolas.

Spooks and Nic - try asking the same questions on these two forums:

www.pprune.org
www.airlinepilotforums.com

HTH, Mr. P

Thanx mate appreciate your thoughts sharing the site. Managed to read up pprune; spooks hope you did the same to answer your doubts, reckon etihad programme attracted a handful but do not fret though the assessment for Singapore is scheduled in Sep'09.

Cheers!

Nic/Spooks, as ex tech crew, you'll need to really have some very good credentials on you to get into ANY cadet scheme.

I don't want to burn your hopes, but really, it's going to be difficult.

People with 4000+ on jet, command time of 1000+ are being furloughed in the US, and you have with all due respect, no chance getting into the majors as a cadet unless you can show them that you have "committed" to flying - I use the inverterted commas for a reason!!!!

This is why I suggested you look into it, and provided those sites. Do you know how much you will earn? After you pay back the loans?

I know personally 4 people who did the whole Tamworth training debcale, got into Rex, then into DJ - want to know what they earn per annum? Sure, they got 900 turbine time, but they then get into DJ and fly a 73x-NG - right hand seat - no seniority.

3 of those four do other businesses outside - because the income isn't enough to sustain 2 kids in school and a mortgage and two cars - one for the wife, the other so they can get to work. The three of them have mortgages that makes me cringe. The other of my other mates now flies freight at night, and never sees his kids. He was my check captain on the B737.

You go into this profession for love. If you love it, I will help you as I help others. Just do your research, first.

It is so much a lifestyle choice - and others may disagree - but it's cold coffee; crap schedules; difficult flight ops wanting you to do extra shifts but not pay you; the occasional standing in a terminal waiting to be transported to a hotel where the next room seems to be having an orgy (and you're not invited!); then you get up and do it all again while trying to run a normal life. Your circadian sleep gets totally rooted (but if and only if you are single, this may be a good thing!). You'll fly, as you build your hours up, crap planes in crap weather and learn how to fly straight and true. You'll shiver or sweat, sometimes within the same trip. As you offload SLF or freight, you'll walk around the a/c and check again - ice, damage, leaks, and tyres. Then, when you think you can go off for a pee, or grab a sandwich, your pager/mobile will ring with some issue.

Then you go into some cold (or hot) terminal and ring. There is always some problem - fuel not being loaded; putting extra tech crew on; missed pax going on your flight. And you still haven't had your sandwich or coffee.

That was my world - do I miss it? Hell yes. However you need to know what real aviation is like.

HTH, P

Well said mate, your aviation experience in a nutshell.

Credentials? As ab-initio cadet pilots, I reckon the well-draft resume and interview or assessment is all you got to prove one's worth. Much as I would love to be part of the local carrier's training, the minimum age is an impediment; the Air Force gets the upper hand in selecting the pool of talents. I leave it to mine friend up there to decide, cheers!

Nic - one trick that really got me and a few mates into the majors was constantly updating your resume with them. I even went so far as to tell them every 100 hour increase! Back in my day, even doing something like paying for a rating was unheard of, but very welcomed. A few of us went over to the US - I did a Lear endorsement, and the other two ('coz they had more money saved up!) did a DC-9 endorsement. I got a job flying night freight - they both cracked the majors within 6 months - with heaps less TT than the majority at that time.

Don't forget to also look at maybe doing a Bachelor degree in Aviation Management or similar - that's looked upon very well also - well, by the majors.

Bear in mind that there are other paths - flying for the majors is only one of them. Plenty of work in corporate aviation, esp. after 9/11, although they do tend to take people who have specialised in those a/c types as a career, but also take mainline tech crew also. Flight training (i.e. instructor), charter etc. are also options. As are helicopters - I was at a mates birthday recently and this guy gets $75K for flying oil rig crews out of Karatha in Western Australia - two weeks on, two weeks off!!!

Good luck with it all - post back and let us know how you're getting on...cheers

Thanx mate! How should I address you?

I have been a vivid reader of forums in recent months but yet to subscribe and reply to any until recently. I must say however, it is heart warming to see sincere forum mate and yourself to take time and share constructive views on the many questions.

Perhaps to begin with, I am scouting for a cadet scheme where SQ/EY is offering. Securing a loan for self-sponsored CPL is an option I crossed out. Thus, the alternative is to apply as a fighter with the air force. Well I did contemplate having a ricebowl as a cabin crew prior to getting mine wings though! Cheers

Nic - have you thought about raising a loan in SIN, and doing one of the courses in the USA? At least your loan interest will be low, hence letting you pay it back. Of course, the exchange rate you'll need to watch and prepare in much the same way for as your CPL/IFR ratings.

I think Eagle air (again, go back to those forums I mentioned - they are better people than I)...offer a good programme with so-called guarantee on regionals (S2000, etc - if you're lucky you might crack jet time on a CRJ).

HTH, and you can just address me as everyone else here does - usually IDIOT, sometimes "P", othertimes, "Moron" !!!!

HTH, P

Well I had thoughts of attaining CPL through two local aviation academy that conducts the course in Australia but the figure is rather steep; SGD140-160k a loan is evidently required!

Nico|as wrote:Well I had thoughts of attaining CPL through two local aviation academy that conducts the course in Australia but the figure is rather steep; SGD140-160k a loan is evidently required!

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