Splatted wrote:ksl wrote:
Washing machines, and all other electronic goods are made for Asian markets, lower quality control, and higher price is what you get in Singapore that is fact.
I have heard there is a Chinese brand of washing machine that is of higher quality than western produced washing machines.
They pour millions into R&D, and even responded to a consumer complaint that their machines did not clear sludge/mud at the bottom of the unit.
When a rep drove several hours to pay the consumer a visit, he found the person was a farmer using the washing machine to wash his potato's.
The company made changes to their design. So now this company is the only company in the world that produce washing machines that can wash both clothes and potatos.
Anything that is any good is Taiwanese when it come to high tech and chips....and they have been very slow to transfer technology to China, all Chinese OEM branded goods in Asia are of a different quality to Europe, and that is pretty logical cost saving when standards are so poor in Asia. There is of course Taiwanese companies operating to European standards in China, but their technology is well guarded and grading of chips still continues. China does not have that high tech knowledge at hand.
Taiwan Government is opposed to handing over the latest technology to its oppressor, when it comes to semi conductors and chips.
You only have to ask Harvey Norman staff what the difference is in quality of the LG fridge Freezers made in China and the ones made in Korea...they will tell you straight China doesn't have the technology transfer from LG to make the same standard.
The same goes for Japanese gaming machines too ask those in the industry, in the game shops, the Chinese versions.
The cloning of major brands is so big in China, that Brand owners cannot keep up, ask in Sim Lim too if you don't believe.
Here is and email just to conclude what goes on
Dear Ken,
Please note that Scandyna do not make PA speaker system model WMA-8610AH.
It is most likely a fake product out of China you have where someone use our name.
Kind regards
Frank
So even when you are buying a brand, you need to have it authenticated, some retailers will tell you straight if you ask if its Chinese made or not.
http://www.chinaeconomicreview.com/dail ... flict.html
I worked in the pc components for 3 years visiting manufacturers and the fake memory chips Chinese ones bearing global giant brand names, is that big of a problem, that people just give up.
SE sorry matey your well off track if you believe your Asian goods are as good as what you get in the USA, yes they or Europe.
I have Taiwanese family in China with 3 factories producing hinges for Dell Computers, he's often here in Singapore, everything is Taiwanese because nobody trusts the quality in China, it's quantity and not quality they produce...
Though without a doubt many businessmen are getting mega rich on the margins of Chinese made components
and stoking the fire. Most of the Components SE mentions are also Taiwanese inside not Chinese,
Though I don't know about is IBM Lenovo, now they have their hands on it.
Though the USA Government have changed their mind too though that was back in 2006.
Anyone that has dealings with China know the risks damn well, SE you need to ask those that are dealing with China, to find out. Even the Taiwanese made Computer brands in Taiwan are specifically made for the local market and do not have international warranties.
Build standards and models are completely different to what you can purchase in Europe. Same with mobile phones too...has anyone seen the legend by HTC in Singapore yet, why do you think Singapore is the last place to get all the new releases
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2845
Though i will agree with some products being the same quality like music cd's and DVD's. Though it is a well known fact too that some mega brands, rely on marketing and branding, rather than quality inside, I wonder could they be Chinese components, yes indeed they could, because big $ margins can be made.
Memory chips alone come in many different grades and nano second speeds, you will see Chinese memory being used, if the technology isn't really required for the product.
Also hard disks are graded too with errors on them, if they can last the warranty then they have done their job, occasionally running them in will pick up bad sectors, these are graded and priced differently only if the consumer is clever enough to test the hard drive for bad sectors, will he get a replacement. welcome to the real world, that is full of dodgy manufacturing.
When i was dealing in components the biggest headache of all, was the RMA of some shit products, guaranteed to break down, hard disks that had been outsourced to China with a very high failure rate and motherboards too was around 10%. Though ones made by the brand owner was of a better quality.
All the digital camera's too, have parts from China and Taiwan, a product only has to outlive its warranty, no matter what cost.
The extended warranties is one of the most lucrative rip offs of all time, just like any other insurance.
Obviously Germany is much Cheaper with a strong Sing$, Holland Cheaper still, because that's where all the large volume of products land for distribution.
There is plenty of information around on the net, to substantiate what goes on in manufacturing.
PCB's are dog standard what goes on them is something else, you want quality stay the hell away from China, unless its run and controlled by the Taiwanese.
I'll throw this one in for good measure
http://www.chiefasiainspector.com/
To add to the list of threats, if you are not mainland Chinese you are fair game
for your greed to move production, will be costly
