Singapore Expats

Just after some advice... I'm planning to kick out my now ex-bf at the end of the month, as - despite having other female interests and a replacement gf - he seems reluctant to leave the convenience of a cheap condo(excuses - can't afford it/can't find anywhere/doesn't want to pay an agent, blah, blah...).
His name's not on the tenancy agreement anywhere, but he is threatening to call the police if I remove all his things and change the locks while he is at work.
Just wondered if I would get into any legal trouble by forcibly evicting him in this way... ?
Tks,
Jo

Joeyfishcat wrote:Just after some advice... I'm planning to kick out my now ex-bf at the end of the month, as - despite having other female interests and a replacement gf - he seems reluctant to leave the convenience of a cheap condo(excuses - can't afford it/can't find anywhere/doesn't want to pay an agent, blah, blah...).
His name's not on the tenancy agreement anywhere, but he is threatening to call the police if I remove all his things and change the locks while he is at work.
Just wondered if I would get into any legal trouble by forcibly evicting him in this way... ?
Tks,
Jo

Domestics are always a problem, try and ring to the local police station, they will put you on the right track on the legal side. I think you should be fine providing you give him written notice to quit. The cops are friendly enough here, or you could get the free legal advice in the local community centre were you live if you are a PR.. if you are on EP I would just ask the cops were you stand legally.

http://www.lawsociety.org.sg/probono/CLC/aboutCLC.aspx

What is he going to say to the police if you kick him out? I would have it all ready on the front door, locks changed with evidence of your tenancy agreement handy and tell him to yes call the police> he dosent even legally live in the property. Just make sure he is there for the handover of his personal property. If the police come tell them you asked him to leave and he refuses and he has no right of abode.

We'll find out from this thread which women not to cross

Good luck OP

Joeyfishcat wrote:Just after some advice... I'm planning to kick out my now ex-bf at the end of the month, as - despite having other female interests and a replacement gf - he seems reluctant to leave the convenience of a cheap condo(excuses - can't afford it/can't find anywhere/doesn't want to pay an agent, blah, blah...).
His name's not on the tenancy agreement anywhere, but he is threatening to call the police if I remove all his things and change the locks while he is at work.
Just wondered if I would get into any legal trouble by forcibly evicting him in this way... ?
Tks,
Jo

Well some men doesnt have any decency....He found a new gf and he refused to leave your common house. If i were you i wont even think twice to throw all his belongings in the bin.

Joeyfishcat wrote:Just after some advice... I'm planning to kick out my now ex-bf at the end of the month, as - despite having other female interests and a replacement gf - he seems reluctant to leave the convenience of a cheap condo(excuses - can't afford it/can't find anywhere/doesn't want to pay an agent, blah, blah...).
His name's not on the tenancy agreement anywhere, but he is threatening to call the police if I remove all his things and change the locks while he is at work.
Just wondered if I would get into any legal trouble by forcibly evicting him in this way... ?
Tks,
Jo

Is this guy for real? He wants to call the cops on you for kicking him out of YOUR house?

What do you think the cops are going to do? Say, "Nope, sorry miss, you gotta live with him"?

Pack his bags and put them outside. Change the locks. Pour a glass of wine.

k1w1 wrote:

Joeyfishcat wrote:Just after some advice... I'm planning to kick out my now ex-bf at the end of the month, as - despite having other female interests and a replacement gf - he seems reluctant to leave the convenience of a cheap condo(excuses - can't afford it/can't find anywhere/doesn't want to pay an agent, blah, blah...).
His name's not on the tenancy agreement anywhere, but he is threatening to call the police if I remove all his things and change the locks while he is at work.
Just wondered if I would get into any legal trouble by forcibly evicting him in this way... ?
Tks,
Jo

Is this guy for real? He wants to call the cops on you for kicking him out of YOUR house?

What do you think the cops are going to do? Say, "Nope, sorry miss, you gotta live with him"?

Pack his bags and put them outside. Change the locks. Pour a glass of wine.

k1w1 wrote: Is this guy for real? He wants to call the cops on you for kicking him out of YOUR house?

well, dunno about SG
but e.g. in Italy u cannot just kick someone out from ur property,
we have many cases where poor people occupied illegally an empty apartment: I mean literally occupying, just forcing the door lock and starting living in.
As an owner u cannot kick them out 'cos they're poor and don't have another accomodation.

Unbelievable? Yeah ...but true!
Maybe the OP knows about similar situation in her country or EU in general...

k1w1 wrote:Is this guy for real? He wants to call the cops on you for kicking him out of YOUR house?

What do you think the cops are going to do? Say, "Nope, sorry miss, you gotta live with him"?

Pack his bags and put them outside. Change the locks. Pour a glass of wine.

Don't be that surprised. In many legal systems you have something which is called "protection of possession" and the possession can be de facto possession so not necessarily with any legal agreement. Such possession is often protected. The rationale is that police is not for judging on the spot whether someone has rights to (here) property and only the court is competent of doing it. Anyway, it is better to check with the police as ksl suggested.

sundaymorningstaple wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting

Hear the drum-beat.... here come the band of wimmin

Come on, guys, this man is not squatting! This is not some abandoned apartment we are talking about. The OP is living in it and, more imortantly, holds the lease to live there. There is no way she is required to let him stay there with her.

If it were his lease, I'd be telling her to get out, but it isn't. She absolutely has the right to say who lives with her. If he wanted rights to the house, he should've put his name on the lease.

Are you guys suggesting she moves out and stays liable for the rent?

As said earlier I suggest to check this first with the police. Clearly the guy has no moral dilemmas of any sorts so if he will be given an opportunity to make some damage to her he may just do this. Even if the protection of possession is different in Singapore following your advise he certainly will claim some of his belongings got missing.

Probably the safest of the unsafe approach would be to pack his stuff in the presence of some witnesses, seal it, change the locks and let him to collect it on the spot or on a given date also having a witness or a camera record for this.

I throw my 2 cents here

There are two part issue that OP must understand.

1. Tenancy Agreement is signed between you and LL
Under Civil Law Act 43 Second Schedule Chap 7A. Hence you are the rightful owner of the house. Not him . He is your guest and removal of him and his belongings from your property is deem legal as undesirable person.

2. Eviction under the same Act para 28

3. You can slap him with a Tresspassing Order Chap 68 under the criminal code

4. At the same time you can apply for PPO (Police Protection Order) if he thinks he can do nasty things when everything turns custard

Hope this helps

Hi MS, have some deja vu feeling but cannot locate the earlier thread... Could you help me please quoting the relevant paragraphs for the rights of the tenant to remove the belongings and the occupant? I do not see the later one in p.28 and cap 7A but could be I am looking in a wrong place.