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Immigration might just be the ticket for the MIW to lose...

Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 1:18 am
by offshoreoildude
I am not sure that the party has really picked up the ground swell against it's relaxed views on immigration. I don't think the PM is listening to the push back and his continued harping on integration of FT's is becoming an irritant rather than a salve. To then add insult to injury by calling concerned commentators 'xenophobes' seems to have pushed the issue even further into a possible opposition camp rallying point.

Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 8:03 am
by offshoreoildude
http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/09/11/dp ... framework/

However, DPM Teo reassured Singaporeans that the number of new Singapore ‘citizens’ has remained ‘stable’, at an average of 18,500 per year in the last five years.

Asked by NMP Tan again about whether the same levels of decline can be expected going forward, DPM Teo said the Government was in the process of ‘reviewing’ its immigration policies.

Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 9:03 am
by therat
1 GRC gone was not strong enough to wake them up.

They need another wake up call on GE2016.

Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:04 am
by v4jr4
They just want to ensure that SCs are happy (and again, to reduce sardine pack). It's their job anyway.

Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 5:25 pm
by offshoreoildude
therat wrote:1 GRC gone was not strong enough to wake them up.

They need another wake up call on GE2016.
i think the useless opposition is working that out - hence the sudden finger pointing and shouts of xenophobe at anyone who dare questions the almost unchecked migration.

Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 8:35 pm
by zzm9980
offshoreoildude wrote:
therat wrote:1 GRC gone was not strong enough to wake them up.

They need another wake up call on GE2016.
i think the useless opposition is working that out - hence the sudden finger pointing and shouts of xenophobe at anyone who dare questions the almost unchecked migration.
Do you read the comment sections of Blogs and Facebook pages locals frequent? The xenophobia is not made up.

Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 9:07 pm
by offshoreoildude
zzm9980 wrote:
offshoreoildude wrote:
therat wrote:1 GRC gone was not strong enough to wake them up.

They need another wake up call on GE2016.
i think the useless opposition is working that out - hence the sudden finger pointing and shouts of xenophobe at anyone who dare questions the almost unchecked migration.
Do you read the comment sections of Blogs and Facebook pages locals frequent? The xenophobia is not made up.
Maybe - but is it justified? Perhaps... if I were a Sinkie I'd e

Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 9:08 pm
by offshoreoildude
zzm9980 wrote:
offshoreoildude wrote:
therat wrote:1 GRC gone was not strong enough to wake them up.

They need another wake up call on GE2016.
i think the useless opposition is working that out - hence the sudden finger pointing and shouts of xenophobe at anyone who dare questions the almost unchecked migration.
Do you read the comment sections of Blogs and Facebook pages locals frequent? The xenophobia is not made up.
Maybe - but is it justified? Perhaps... if I were a Sinkie I'd be screaming 'freak Off We're Full' as well!

Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 9:18 pm
by zzm9980
offshoreoildude wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
offshoreoildude wrote: i think the useless opposition is working that out - hence the sudden finger pointing and shouts of xenophobe at anyone who dare questions the almost unchecked migration.
Do you read the comment sections of Blogs and Facebook pages locals frequent? The xenophobia is not made up.
Maybe - but is it justified? Perhaps... if I were a Sinkie I'd be screaming 'freak Off We're Full' as well!
No, it's not at all. When foreigners are dying in tragic accidents, people are gloating and cheering for more. It is disgusting.

Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 9:37 pm
by offshoreoildude
zzm9980 wrote:
offshoreoildude wrote:
zzm9980 wrote: Do you read the comment sections of Blogs and Facebook pages locals frequent? The xenophobia is not made up.
Maybe - but is it justified? Perhaps... if I were a Sinkie I'd be screaming 'freak Off We're Full' as well!
No, it's not at all. When foreigners are dying in tragic accidents, people are gloating and cheering for more. It is disgusting.
The Ferrari driver's death was Darwinian. No sinkie I knew gloated but a lot were angry at him.

Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:38 pm
by Strong Eagle
offshoreoildude wrote:
therat wrote:1 GRC gone was not strong enough to wake them up.

They need another wake up call on GE2016.
i think the useless opposition is working that out - hence the sudden finger pointing and shouts of xenophobe at anyone who dare questions the almost unchecked migration.
What "unchecked" immigration? Read a few of the posts around here. Tightened regs, SG companies unable to fill S Pass quotas because Singers won't work at the job.

Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 9:12 am
by offshoreoildude
Strong Eagle wrote:
offshoreoildude wrote:
therat wrote:1 GRC gone was not strong enough to wake them up.

They need another wake up call on GE2016.
i think the useless opposition is working that out - hence the sudden finger pointing and shouts of xenophobe at anyone who dare questions the almost unchecked migration.
What "unchecked" immigration? Read a few of the posts around here. Tightened regs, SG companies unable to fill S Pass quotas because Singers won't work at the job.
Compared to my home country it is still a relatively lax immigration system.

Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 9:16 am
by zzm9980
offshoreoildude wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
offshoreoildude wrote: Maybe - but is it justified? Perhaps... if I were a Sinkie I'd be screaming 'freak Off We're Full' as well!
No, it's not at all. When foreigners are dying in tragic accidents, people are gloating and cheering for more. It is disgusting.
The Ferrari driver's death was Darwinian. No sinkie I knew gloated but a lot were angry at him.
I wasn't talking about him. I'm talking about the FDWs found stabbed in hotels in Geylang, the Vietnamese PR (with a child) found floating dead in a condo pool, etc.

And even if we talk about the Ferrari guy, if that had been a SC and/or any other car, the rhetoric would have been significantly lower. In fact, there was a kid (~22ish) maybe six months ago that totaled his Honda Integra somewhere out west, killing his 19yr old girlfriend. High speeds on an empty road late at night. Almost no comments bashing his idiocy, just sympathy postings that he had to live with the thought his gf died.

Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 9:30 am
by offshoreoildude
zzm9980 wrote:
offshoreoildude wrote:
zzm9980 wrote: No, it's not at all. When foreigners are dying in tragic accidents, people are gloating and cheering for more. It is disgusting.
The Ferrari driver's death was Darwinian. No sinkie I knew gloated but a lot were angry at him.
I wasn't talking about him. I'm talking about the FDWs found stabbed in hotels in Geylang, the Vietnamese PR (with a child) found floating dead in a condo pool, etc.

And even if we talk about the Ferrari guy, if that had been a SC and/or any other car, the rhetoric would have been significantly lower. In fact, there was a kid (~22ish) maybe six months ago that totaled his Honda Integra somewhere out west, killing his 19yr old girlfriend. High speeds on an empty road late at night. Almost no comments bashing his idiocy, just sympathy postings that he had to live with the thought his gf died.
Well, life is cheaper in Asia. I have yet to see anyone gloat over a death IRL or even that much online though.

Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:01 am
by zzm9980
offshoreoildude wrote:
Well, life is cheaper in Asia. I have yet to see anyone gloat over a death IRL or even that much online though.
All you have to do is read some articles on TR Emeritus, Temasek times, and follow the comments. Or, read the comments on the articles they share on each of their Facebook pages. Or, the general news/chat forums on local sites like asia one, hardware zone, even sammyboy (They all tend to link to each other anyway). I only casually browse those sites, but I see plenty of it there. I'd be quite interested to see examples of *any* news posting about foreigners that doesn't get quite xenophobic. (expat sites exempted of course)