Singapore Expats

News from the Irish Mirror:
(not copied and pasted)

A shocking video has been released of rabbits being restrained while fur is cruelly ripped from their skin, all the while screaming in pain. The fur-less rabbits do not die; instead, they are left lying shocked and motionless in their cages, to await the same ripping procedure every 3 months for 2-5 years before their throats are slit.

90% of the world's Angora fur is produced in China, which currently has no penalties for animal abuse on rabbit farms and no standards that regulate the treatment of animals.

As a consumer, you have the responsibility to know where your apparel is sourced from and how they are farmed.

Ostrich skins, crocodile hides, an assortment of gorgeous fur... the realities are often filled with sentient skinning and screams of pain or terror from their watchful, terrified companions.

Talking rabbits? Screaming rabbits? Is watching these videos some sort of weird fetish?

Are expats predominantly consumers of these products?

And ostrich skin/hide, how is it different from chicken skin, or salmon skin? They're all farmed.

What's the point of posting this, especially on this forum? I will never be a vegetarian

Though I say, it would be better if they killed the rabbit first before doing this, and sell it for consumption. I like eating rabbit, if more rabbit meat were sold, it would become cheaper .

AMG, I will agree with you there. I love rabbit stew and batter fried rabbit as well. Grew up hunting rabbit. Hard to find here in Singapore. Used to be able to find it out in Chua Chu Kang, but that dried up. Haven't really looked lately but even then it was about $50 for a 1.5 kg dressed rabbit.

sundaymorningstaple wrote:batter fried rabbit

Never heard that one before. I'm assuming that's a home made dish?
Will have to keep that one in mind the next time i see rabbits on the menu.

Have you ever eaten chicken fried steak? Same principle, dip the steak in batter and fry it. Yeah, old country recipe from my neck of the woods. Just google batter fried rabbit, loads of recipes.

http://adventuretess.blogspot.sg/2010/1 ... thday.html

Scarbowl: No watching that video is not a fetish, simply an exposure of the truth that goes into angora fur products.

JR8: Regarding your comment about the difference between chicken/salmon skin and ostrich skins, although both groups are farmed, ostriches as well as other exotic animals like snakes and crocs are treated much more inhumanely during the killing process. Ostriches, if they are stunned before killing, are frequently NOT shocked enough to cease struggling as it is extremely difficult to stun a big ostrich properly: It can take up to 2 hours of struggling to kill one. As 80% of the value of a butchered ostrich lies in the ostrich leather industry, they have to kill it in such a way so as to avoid violent struggles which will bruise the hide. Additionally, in order to produce that 'beautiful' raised-scab pattern on ostrich leather, quills have to be plucked from the roots from the live bird.

AngMoG: they do eventually kill the rabbit, but only after it has endured 2 - 5 years of painful fur-ripping every 3 months. Actually this post is very far from appealing for vegetarian-conversion, I am merely raising the point that it is not necessary to force unimaginable trauma on an animal(or any living beings) for fashion.

saykreem wrote:JR8: ...Ostriches, if they are stunned before killing, are frequently NOT shocked enough to cease struggling as it is extremely difficult to stun a big ostrich properly: It can take up to 2 hours of struggling to kill one.

I've tied a cow to a post and driven a knife through it's neck. And I've done similar to a pig. Each took maybe 10-20 seconds to kill the animal.

p.s. I have no wish to repeat either directly. But *this is where food comes from*.




ppps who in heavens name eats ostrich?

I do, when I can get it. Excellent healthy foul. Better than most meats, health wise.

JR8 wrote:ppps who in heavens name eats ostrich?

I've had ostrich before. It's ok. Nothing special. At least i can i've tried it.

JR8: Since ostrich leather commands 80% of its value, they cannot afford to have the hide bruised as the ostrich struggles; therefore, they have to stun it first in such a narrow area that it cannot move. However, stunning is always less effective for such a huge creature, and the ostrich still struggles for up to 2 hours prior to it's death. It is the leather that is prized, much more so than the meat.

driving a stake through the neck is nothing like having an animal suffer in prolonged agony.

If consumption of animal products in FASHION can be reduced, so can the prolonged agony that they suffer prior to being snuffed out for meat.

saykreem, grow a pair. Live will be a lot easier.

saykreem wrote:Since ostrich leather commands 80% of its value, they cannot afford to have the hide bruised as the ostrich struggles; therefore, they have to stun it first in such a narrow area that it cannot move. However, stunning is always less effective for such a huge creature, and the ostrich still struggles for up to 2 hours prior to it's death.

Right, so they can't let it struggle, but let it struggle a few hours, is that the scenario?

You learnt this on a ostrich farm?


p.s. I've seen people go off 'single issue' and political about meat, dogs, horses, cats, half the stuff Chinese people eat at weddings. But farmed ostriches....that's a new complaint for me!

I like my life the way it is.