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That is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.abbby wrote: ↑Fri, 26 Jul 2024 9:44 amHorrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.
I hope you close forever.
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Holy crap! In Singapore...? Why did you suspect? The dog's behaviour post grooming?malcontent wrote: ↑Fri, 26 Jul 2024 3:59 pmThat is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.abbby wrote: ↑Fri, 26 Jul 2024 9:44 amHorrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.
I hope you close forever.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ca-4504236
Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.
Yes, in Singapore. The dog’s behavior just seemed indicative. I confronted the groomer, and of course they denied it… but not convincingly. I thought at least by letting them know I suspected something they would be less likely to repeat it.abbby wrote: ↑Sat, 27 Jul 2024 8:15 pmHoly crap! In Singapore...? Why did you suspect? The dog's behaviour post grooming?malcontent wrote: ↑Fri, 26 Jul 2024 3:59 pmThat is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.abbby wrote: ↑Fri, 26 Jul 2024 9:44 amHorrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.
I hope you close forever.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ca-4504236
Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.
My daughter knows the pet shop owner as he used to work in a company where she interned. It's a pretty high profile media company and when netizens found out he was an ex employee they bombarded the company with threatening and negative messages. As if there's anything they could do. But terrible tragedy. Truly negligent.abbby wrote: ↑Fri, 26 Jul 2024 9:44 amHorrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.
I hope you close forever.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ca-4504236
What led to this suspicion??malcontent wrote: ↑Fri, 26 Jul 2024 3:59 pmThat is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.abbby wrote: ↑Fri, 26 Jul 2024 9:44 amHorrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.
I hope you close forever.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ca-4504236
Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.
Back when we were in the market for a purebred poodle puppy we visited many pet shops. Some in the Sungei (Tengah?) area were blatant with their breeding practices. Just had the dogs doing it right outside the shop. So not surprising to me.abbby wrote: ↑Sat, 27 Jul 2024 8:15 pmHoly crap! In Singapore...? Why did you suspect? The dog's behaviour post grooming?malcontent wrote: ↑Fri, 26 Jul 2024 3:59 pmThat is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.abbby wrote: ↑Fri, 26 Jul 2024 9:44 amHorrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.
I hope you close forever.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ca-4504236
Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.
Right! At the end of the day it's just unethical. Curious as to why the dog wasn't spayed though, it's my understanding that dogs must be spayed within a certain period after purchase in accordance with the purchase agreement. This is to prevent owners from making money off their dogs.malcontent wrote: ↑Sat, 27 Jul 2024 8:26 pmYes, in Singapore. The dog’s behavior just seemed indicative. I confronted the groomer, and of course they denied it… but not convincingly. I thought at least by letting them know I suspected something they would be less likely to repeat it.abbby wrote: ↑Sat, 27 Jul 2024 8:15 pmHoly crap! In Singapore...? Why did you suspect? The dog's behaviour post grooming?malcontent wrote: ↑Fri, 26 Jul 2024 3:59 pm
That is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.
Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.
At the very least they should have paid a stud fee or provided free grooming!
The dog flew over from the USLisafuller wrote: ↑Sun, 28 Jul 2024 1:06 amRight! At the end of the day it's just unethical. Curious as to why the dog wasn't spayed though, it's my understanding that dogs must be spayed within a certain period after purchase in accordance with the purchase agreement. This is to prevent owners from making money off their dogs.malcontent wrote: ↑Sat, 27 Jul 2024 8:26 pmYes, in Singapore. The dog’s behavior just seemed indicative. I confronted the groomer, and of course they denied it… but not convincingly. I thought at least by letting them know I suspected something they would be less likely to repeat it.
At the very least they should have paid a stud fee or provided free grooming!
Yup..good to alert them on your suspicions.malcontent wrote: ↑Sat, 27 Jul 2024 8:26 pmYes, in Singapore. The dog’s behavior just seemed indicative. I confronted the groomer, and of course they denied it… but not convincingly. I thought at least by letting them know I suspected something they would be less likely to repeat it.abbby wrote: ↑Sat, 27 Jul 2024 8:15 pmHoly crap! In Singapore...? Why did you suspect? The dog's behaviour post grooming?malcontent wrote: ↑Fri, 26 Jul 2024 3:59 pm
That is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.
Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.
At the very least they should have paid a stud fee or provided free grooming!
When we got our puppy we were told it was best to neuter before two years of age as that is when problems begin to emerge. He is a male dog so the loss of libido was much appreciated.NYY1 wrote: ↑Sun, 28 Jul 2024 9:27 amYou don't have to spay or castrate a dog, but the license is cheaper if you do.
While there are claims of health benefits from neutering, I am not 100% sure. For years it was recommended to neuter the pets at a very young age but since the guidelines have changed (what was pushed was wrong).
AVS has made some changes to the breeding regulations in recent years, but it is hard to say how much this has moved the needle (there was a recent headline/article where most breeders were still in violation of something). At the end of the day, a commercial breeding operation is a commercial breeding operation.
In other countries, there are probably some private breeders that do a better job (health and care of the parents while not breeding, dog and puppies have more space, play and training during the first 8-12 weeks, etc). At the same time, some breeders elsewhere are likely pretty bad as well.
Realistically if they are doing it they are already unethical and immoral and will not make amends. Best to take your business elsewhere and report them.abbby wrote: ↑Sun, 28 Jul 2024 4:04 pmYup..good to alert them on your suspicions.malcontent wrote: ↑Sat, 27 Jul 2024 8:26 pmYes, in Singapore. The dog’s behavior just seemed indicative. I confronted the groomer, and of course they denied it… but not convincingly. I thought at least by letting them know I suspected something they would be less likely to repeat it.
At the very least they should have paid a stud fee or provided free grooming!
I think one to two years of age (roughly speaking) is the recommended window. Some issues can arise if the procedure is done before the dog has finished growing (for example, a female will almost certainly need to go through at least one heat cycle).Lisafuller wrote: ↑Tue, 30 Jul 2024 2:26 amWhen we got our puppy we were told it was best to neuter before two years of age as that is when problems begin to emerge. He is a male dog so the loss of libido was much appreciated.