Irresponsible Pet shop

[abbby]

Horrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.

I hope you close forever.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ca-4504236

[malcontent]

Horrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.

I hope you close forever.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ca-4504236

That is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.

Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.

[abbby]

Horrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.

I hope you close forever.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ca-4504236

That is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.

Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.

Holy crap! In Singapore...? Why did you suspect? The dog's behaviour post grooming?

[malcontent]

Horrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.

I hope you close forever.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ca-4504236

That is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.

Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.

Holy crap! In Singapore...? Why did you suspect? The dog's behaviour post grooming?

Yes, in Singapore. The dog’s behavior just seemed indicative. I confronted the groomer, and of course they denied it… but not convincingly. I thought at least by letting them know I suspected something they would be less likely to repeat it.

At the very least they should have paid a stud fee or provided free grooming!

[Lisafuller]

Horrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.

I hope you close forever.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ca-4504236

My daughter knows the pet shop owner as he used to work in a company where she interned. It's a pretty high profile media company and when netizens found out he was an ex employee they bombarded the company with threatening and negative messages. As if there's anything they could do. But terrible tragedy. Truly negligent.

[Lisafuller]

Horrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.

I hope you close forever.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ca-4504236

That is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.

Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.

What led to this suspicion??

[Lisafuller]

Horrible, there are so many staff but all are so irresponsible. No one watches the dogs.

I hope you close forever.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ca-4504236

That is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.

Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.

Holy crap! In Singapore...? Why did you suspect? The dog's behaviour post grooming?

Back when we were in the market for a purebred poodle puppy we visited many pet shops. Some in the Sungei (Tengah?) area were blatant with their breeding practices. Just had the dogs doing it right outside the shop. So not surprising to me.

[Lisafuller]

That is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.

Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.

Holy crap! In Singapore...? Why did you suspect? The dog's behaviour post grooming?

Yes, in Singapore. The dog’s behavior just seemed indicative. I confronted the groomer, and of course they denied it… but not convincingly. I thought at least by letting them know I suspected something they would be less likely to repeat it.

At the very least they should have paid a stud fee or provided free grooming!

Right! At the end of the day it's just unethical. Curious as to why the dog wasn't spayed though, it's my understanding that dogs must be spayed within a certain period after purchase in accordance with the purchase agreement. This is to prevent owners from making money off their dogs.

[malcontent]

Holy crap! In Singapore...? Why did you suspect? The dog's behaviour post grooming?

Yes, in Singapore. The dog’s behavior just seemed indicative. I confronted the groomer, and of course they denied it… but not convincingly. I thought at least by letting them know I suspected something they would be less likely to repeat it.

At the very least they should have paid a stud fee or provided free grooming!

Right! At the end of the day it's just unethical. Curious as to why the dog wasn't spayed though, it's my understanding that dogs must be spayed within a certain period after purchase in accordance with the purchase agreement. This is to prevent owners from making money off their dogs.

The dog flew over from the US

[Lisafuller]

You don't have to have them spayed? Other than for contractual reasons I believe there's also a health component (many health conditions originate from the keeping of the reproductive organs) in addition to behavioral issues that often arise (aggressiveness in males, for example).

[NYY1]

You don't have to spay or castrate a dog, but the license is cheaper if you do.

While there are claims of health benefits from neutering, I am not 100% sure. For years it was recommended to neuter the pets at a very young age but since the guidelines have changed (what was pushed was wrong).

AVS has made some changes to the breeding regulations in recent years, but it is hard to say how much this has moved the needle (there was a recent headline/article where most breeders were still in violation of something). At the end of the day, a commercial breeding operation is a commercial breeding operation.

In other countries, there are probably some private breeders that do a better job (health and care of the parents while not breeding, dog and puppies have more space, play and training during the first 8-12 weeks, etc). At the same time, some breeders elsewhere are likely pretty bad as well.

[abbby]

That is horrible. I don’t have a high opinion of pet groomers here.

Back when my SIL had a purebred dog, I strongly suspected that the groomers were using him as a stud to impregnate females during the grooming process… but very hard to prove.

Holy crap! In Singapore...? Why did you suspect? The dog's behaviour post grooming?

Yes, in Singapore. The dog’s behavior just seemed indicative. I confronted the groomer, and of course they denied it… but not convincingly. I thought at least by letting them know I suspected something they would be less likely to repeat it.

At the very least they should have paid a stud fee or provided free grooming!

Yup..good to alert them on your suspicions.

[Lisafuller]

You don't have to spay or castrate a dog, but the license is cheaper if you do.

While there are claims of health benefits from neutering, I am not 100% sure. For years it was recommended to neuter the pets at a very young age but since the guidelines have changed (what was pushed was wrong).

AVS has made some changes to the breeding regulations in recent years, but it is hard to say how much this has moved the needle (there was a recent headline/article where most breeders were still in violation of something). At the end of the day, a commercial breeding operation is a commercial breeding operation.

In other countries, there are probably some private breeders that do a better job (health and care of the parents while not breeding, dog and puppies have more space, play and training during the first 8-12 weeks, etc). At the same time, some breeders elsewhere are likely pretty bad as well.

When we got our puppy we were told it was best to neuter before two years of age as that is when problems begin to emerge. He is a male dog so the loss of libido was much appreciated.

[Lisafuller]

Holy crap! In Singapore...? Why did you suspect? The dog's behaviour post grooming?

Yes, in Singapore. The dog’s behavior just seemed indicative. I confronted the groomer, and of course they denied it… but not convincingly. I thought at least by letting them know I suspected something they would be less likely to repeat it.

At the very least they should have paid a stud fee or provided free grooming!

Yup..good to alert them on your suspicions.

Realistically if they are doing it they are already unethical and immoral and will not make amends. Best to take your business elsewhere and report them.

[NYY1]

When we got our puppy we were told it was best to neuter before two years of age as that is when problems begin to emerge. He is a male dog so the loss of libido was much appreciated.

I think one to two years of age (roughly speaking) is the recommended window. Some issues can arise if the procedure is done before the dog has finished growing (for example, a female will almost certainly need to go through at least one heat cycle).

I think what is unknown is how the absence of these organs/hormones affects the dog going forward (many pets will still live happy lives and whatnot). My feeling is that the procedures are recommended as much for population control and behaviour as they are for health reasons.

The procedure is also easier for a male dog; two swings of the knife plus a band-aid, and after a day or two he's back in business. For females, it's a bit more intensive. On the other hand, you have the ongoing heat cycle and risk of pregnancy.

Like many things, there are tradeoffs, and I'm not sure which route is best.