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by geebers1301
Fri, 21 Aug 2015 7:23 am
Forum: Insurance
Topic: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product
Replies: 23
Views: 26242

Re: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product

Yes and that is why i share my experience for other not to do the same mistake
by geebers1301
Thu, 20 Aug 2015 8:54 pm
Forum: Insurance
Topic: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product
Replies: 23
Views: 26242

Re: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product

RDR reform in the UK and change in regulations in Hong kong have been implemented exactly to avoid this
I am wondering whether such regulation on the disclosure of the commissions exist in singapore ?
If you go see your RM he will tell you the fund is underperforming ...
by geebers1301
Thu, 20 Aug 2015 8:04 pm
Forum: Insurance
Topic: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product
Replies: 23
Views: 26242

Re: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product

Yes it is an investment linked product but the insurance fees are outside the fund (1.5 % annually)
The same fund for the next generation of product doesn t have any b/o
My guess is that the b/o is actually used to pay sales commission
by geebers1301
Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:11 pm
Forum: Insurance
Topic: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product
Replies: 23
Views: 26242

Re: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product

Hi Strong eagle

I think too. I am learning the hard way. To nbe fair the surrender penalty is something clearly mentionned, the bid offer are clearly not
Looking at all the fees since inception, they represent 70% of the total fees
I agree i should look at legal option
by geebers1301
Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:43 am
Forum: Insurance
Topic: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product
Replies: 23
Views: 26242

Re: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product

The surrender penalty is too high (during the frst 7 years of the products a big part of the capital can be lost) and it is not possible to stop paying the regular premiums (Only premium holidays which can be seen as a pause in the payment but it doesn t mean that you can exit the product). There is...
by geebers1301
Wed, 19 Aug 2015 9:24 pm
Forum: Insurance
Topic: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product
Replies: 23
Views: 26242

Re: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product

Coming back to this topic I just noticed that the same fund is offered in the old and new products of hsbc. In the old product the bid offer of the fund is 5% In the new product 0% If the purpose of the bid offer is to cover some transaction within the fund, I don't understand why the charging is di...
by geebers1301
Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:56 pm
Forum: Insurance
Topic: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product
Replies: 23
Views: 26242

Re: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product

It is just surprising how they market the new product : "Simple and transparent solution to increase your returns No more multiple charges like policy fees, supplementary charges, bid-offer spread, cost of insurance, etc. " Sounds like they are learning from their mistakes :-) @JR8 : still chasing m...
by geebers1301
Fri, 31 Jul 2015 5:14 pm
Forum: Insurance
Topic: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product
Replies: 23
Views: 26242

Re: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product

I looked at the firstcompare website to download the prospectus but it seems that the product The product has been removed :-) Few weeks ago it was it was still there. I probably can find it and post it later How about my question on the bid offer ? Any information ? Is it a usual fees in the insura...
by geebers1301
Fri, 31 Jul 2015 4:38 pm
Forum: Insurance
Topic: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product
Replies: 23
Views: 26242

Re: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product

Hi JR8, Thanks for your quick feedbacks. I think that mistakes in terms of investment can happen. I just feel like in this product the returns needed to offset the fees is way to high and the bank which provides this product should disclose all the fees which Has not been the case because some of th...
by geebers1301
Fri, 31 Jul 2015 2:41 pm
Forum: Insurance
Topic: feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product
Replies: 23
Views: 26242

feedbacks about HSBC "growth manager" product

Hi, I am quite new in this forum eventhough I have been living in Singapore for more than 3 years now as an expat. In particular, I wanted to have some feedbacks regarding a particular product that I subscribed to through HSBC which is called HSBC growth manager (If any person in this forum subscrib...

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